Friday, February 8, 2013

Yeh woh "civilized" hain

Drone Strikes’ Risks to Get Rare Moment in the Public Eye

SANA, Yemen — Late last August, a 40-year-old cleric named Salem Ahmed bin Ali Jaber stood up to deliver a speech denouncing Al Qaeda in a village mosque in far eastern Yemen.

It was a brave gesture by a father of seven who commanded great respect in the community, and it did not go unnoticed. Two days later, three members of Al Qaeda came to the mosque in the tiny village of Khashamir after 9 p.m., saying they merely wanted to talk. Mr. Jaber agreed to meet them, bringing his cousin Waleed Abdullah, a police officer, for protection. 

As the five men stood arguing by a cluster of palm trees, a volley of remotely operated American missiles shot down from the night sky and incinerated them all, along with a camel that was tied up nearby. 

The killing of Mr. Jaber, just the kind of leader most crucial to American efforts to eradicate Al Qaeda, was a reminder of the inherent hazards of the quasi-secret campaign of targeted killings that the United States is waging against suspected militants not just in Yemen but also in Pakistan and Somalia. Individual strikes by the Predator and Reaper drones are almost never discussed publicly by Obama administration officials. But the clandestine war will receive a rare moment of public scrutiny on Thursday, when its chief architect, John O. Brennan, the White House counterterrorism adviser, faces a Senate confirmation hearing as President Obama’s nominee for C.I.A. director. 

From his basement office in the White House, Mr. Brennan has served as the principal coordinator of a “kill list” of Qaeda operatives marked for death, overseeing drone strikes by the military and the C.I.A., and advising Mr. Obama on which strikes he should approve.

I recommend reading the whole article by the way.   These are the "architects" of remotely pressing a button and incinerating people who have not even been proven guilty of anything. This is the civilized world which does things in such a manner that it doesn't have to show any ugly hand brandishing a weapon and firing it. Everything happens automatically and remotely. 

This guy is now going to be CIA's director. And this is the guy who went to Riyadh, held meetings with the khadmain harmain shareefain ... and came up with the means to kill and maim hundreds in drone strikes in Yemen. All with the blessings of muslim leaders. 

It's surprising we're still taken in by the system in place. It's surprising we still believe that bringing in a democratically elected "islamic government" is going to bring about real change in the country/world. Check out what's going on in Tunisia, which delighted people -including yours truly - because it was an islamic government. Sigh. 

Tunisian Premier Vows Change After Foe Is Killed 

A Tunisian secularist opposition leader was shot dead outside his home in the capital, sparking nationwide protests and an announcement by the prime minister that he would dissolve his Islamist-led government.

Chokri Belaid, a 47-year-old outspoken critic, was shot at close range as he was about to get into his car and go to work on Wednesday, according to the Tunisian Ministry of Interior. It was the first political assassination since a popular uprising forced out Tunisia's former dictator in January 2011, and came amid growing violence in a standoff between secular and religious forces in the country.

Thousands of Tunisians took to the streets in several cities after the attack. In the capital, Tunis, police used tear gas to disperse wailing demonstrators marching behind the ambulance carrying Mr. Belaid's body to the morgue. One policeman was killed during protests in Tunis, the government said.

Many protesters chanted "the people want the fall of the regime" and other slogans that echoed through Tunisia's streets during the revolution two years ago, witnesses said. This time, however, the ruling party, Ennahda, bore the brunt of the popular rage.

Prime Minister Hamadi Jebali, who is from the Islamist party, said late Wednesday he would dissolve the government and form a national unity cabinet of technocrats in a bid to head off the deepening crisis.
And the same story is echoing in Egypt, with thousands of protestors wanting an end to their regime. Why?
Why is the Islamic model not working?

My take on this is that we have the leaders in place, but we don't have the system in which this leadership will work. We still hold the "state" as "sovereign" and  not Allah as the Sovereign.

Any thoughts on this are welcome.


Tauqeer said...

What has happened in Tunisia and Egypt is a positive change. Positive for people who wants to see countries governed by Shariah laws.

A lot of people are not ready for that, because they do not completely understand the idea of an Islamic state. They need to be educated. In my personal view, education/enlightenment regarding Islamic system and democracy is the only way forward.

Let hope and pray for good of the people.

Uni said...

It seemed positive at the time. People believed in their promises. Now, things haven't really turned out as were promised. Take Egypt as an example. One would expect, that an Islamic ruler would at least (at the very least) speak out against the riba-based economic model prevalent today and get research done on how to get his country rid of it. Nope. That didn't happen.

Also, there was hope that an Islamic ruler wouldn't really hold ties with enemies of Islam. But nothing on these lines happened.

No matter how much you educate people on Islam - these are the basics. And they weren't implemented.

And no effort was made to even try to implement these basics. So why would people believe in him any more?

Rather, this is a turn-off from democracy, because democracy (which is not really an Islamic concept) has failed the people, repeatedly. With or without an Islam-oriented ruler.

Thanks for dropping by.

Tauqeer said...

Well I believe he has not been given power and time to implement everything associated with Shariah. If you look at the latest constitution changes they have made, one can see very positive steps taken.

A revolutionary approach by changing things upside down would only create further chaotic situation.

I cannot see any other practical way to get things done.

Uni said...

I too believed at the time that things would change gradually. But I don't think gradualism works with implementing Islam as a political system. Think about it. He will gradually introduce a few changes, while remaining on the huge no-nos in Islam, for a loong time, harming his people and the name of Islam too [ever heard of the gleeful "Omg-morsi-doing-this-and-he-claimed-to-be-islamic" comments.. ?

The democratic model ensures that no matter how sincere your intentions are, the minute you refuse to act on somebody else's tune (in Egypt's case, the army, and ultimately, the west), your entire party falls apart. Be it officers shooting protestors, riots, massive protests, and ultimately, via the same democracy that got you into power, you're outvoted.

Democracy ensures that in the Parliament, if Morsi says that Islam prohibits riba, we want to get rid of it, they will have to take a vote for this element in their economy to be gotten rid of. Think about it. There has got to be a people's vote on something - about which Quran says,

"O you who believe! Be afraid of Allah and give up what remains (due to you) from RIBA (usury) (from now onward), if you are (really) believers. And if you do not do it, then take a notice of WAR from Allâh and His Messenger but if you repent, you shall have your capital sums. Deal not unjustly (by asking more than your capital sums), and you shall not be dealt with unjustly (by receiving less than your capital sums)"

Al Baqarah 2:278-279

This is what democracy says, and this is precisely the reason why Morsi's position is so weak. The minute he displeases his masters, he's gone. To ensure that he remains, he's got to compromise. And compromise means, going completely against Islam on very serious matters.

Now, what is the alternative. I will leave that for now - as a research question for you - and as a post for next time IA.

I know you can come up with the answer, the only solution. All one has to do is to examine the Seerah of the Holy Prophet (saw) to reach the conclusion.

May Allah Guide us all, Ameen.

Tauqeer said...


Mohammad Zafar said...

Assalamu a'laikum,

I think, till now you were on the streets for Justice in an environment and system which was not at all acceptable to ALL. Now when you are given chance to change things you have different things to look at. First of All Its not Khilafah that is given to anyone. Its about democracy that is what west AGREED to allow (Its not ready to accept Islamic Rule in any country which may become model to other 50 odd muslim contries..). Then you have Muslims who do not want to live in an Islamic Model system or Do not like anything Islamic. By seeing All these situations one has to decide either to go to war with everyone else or play some build up a strong working majority which is mentally ready to accept the Islamic Model.

I feel Muslims (The Power Hungry, The Wicked, Munafiqoon) are the Biggest obstacle in doing this than other people.

Let hope for the best and Pray to Allah to help the bearer of the flag who are striving to implement Allah's Will.

Tauqeer said...

Update on Egypt's economy and what Morsi is trying to do (Islamic context):